A thread on the NYRA forum discussed recent comments Ann Coulter made about how everyone should become Christian and how (as she was talking to a Jewish host) Jews would be perfected by becoming Christian. Some responses:

It’s understood that what she was saying about her own religion was a philosophical interpretation. That’s all well and good. But she also said specifically, “Jews need to be perfected.” I don’t see how that isn’t anti-semitic.

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Ann Coulter is an ugly, batshit insane bitch. While I may not agree with people like Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh or Pat Buchanan, I can at least respect them and they are civil. On the other hand, Ann Coulter is raving nutcase.

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What she said was definitely anti-semitic. She is saying that Jews cannot be complete without being Christian. Like Jews are 4/5 of a person and the only way that they can become complete is to convert to Christianity.

Oh please.

There isn’t anything the slightest bit anti-semitic about what she said.

How do Orthodox Jews feel about non-practicing or reform Jews? I highly doubt they consider their beliefs (or lack of beliefs) to be an entirely acceptable and equal alternative to their own. I’ll go out on a limb and assume that those Orthodox that strive to keep all of God’s commandments consider themselves “perfected Jews” and everyone else as falling from the one true path.

Are they being anti-semitic too?

What then of Christianity, which represents the next set of God’s laws for his people (Jews) and everyone else? Admittedly, most Christians do a poor job of following the teachings of the Bible, and in my opinion Coulter’s brand of Christianity does a poorer job than most, but we seek to follow God’s commandments. What is wrong with that? And what is wrong with wishing that others seek to follow those commandments as well?

Is there something offensive about liberals who want everyone to vote for Democrats? Or anti-war protesters who want to convince people to believe the war is unjust? Or with us for supporting youth rights and wanting the world to support it too. We, like all people, believe our principles and beliefs are correct. We aren’t some cult that is just going to go off into a desert and live a youth rights life and write off the rest of the world. No, we want to make their lives better, and make the world better by “converting” everyone to the “Gospel” of youth rights. Yes, Jews too.

Are we anti-semitic for wanting to perfect Jews by convincing them of the rightness of youth rights?

Or has relativism and moral equivilency seeped into everyones brains so far there is no such thing as right or wrong, even with things you yourself believe in?

“Oh, you think kids should be beaten to death in gulag schools for their own good? Oh, well if that’s what you believe, ok, it would be improper and offensive of me to try and change your mind and dare to suggest that my beliefs are better than yours.”

You can call me all manner of foul names like anti-semite, but yes, I do believe Jews (and most Christians btw) would benefit from following the teachings of Jesus and the Bible. I also believe everyone would benefit from following the teachings of John Holt and Mike Males. I also believe that if the country agreed with me on the war and the economy and the death penalty and immigration and every other political issue that we’d all be better off. If I didn’t think that, then there is no reason to have political, social, philosophic or religious beliefs at all.

So, we should just accept Democrats, Republicans, Nazis, Communists and Islamic Terrorists as all equally valid philosophies that shouldn’t be convinced otherwise?

Personally I think that is the only really offensive point of view.

Then again, how would this work the other way around? Jews believe themselves to be God’s “Chosen People” (and I and most Christians do too of course), is that a racist, bigoted thing to say? Should we, the forces of pluralism and tolerance, demand that Judaism repudiate the notion that they are God’s chosen people in case non-Jews are offended by such an audacious claim? Are all Jews then, anti-Gentilites?

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